Israel releases 'audio of Hamas discussing failed rocket launch'
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Israel's Defence Forces have released an audio clip which they claim shows Hamas members confirming a misfiring rocket launched by Palestinian Islamic Jihad ...

Considering what happened in Al Ahli Hospital…

  • Idliketothinkimsmart@lemmygrad.ml
    18·
    9 months ago

    What is there to debunk? The IDF released a supposed recording of two people (who some are saying dont even have a Gazan dialect), but don’t you think it’s a bit strange that their names would be censored?

    If theyre evil Hamas agents, why would it matter to protect their identities? Unless it’s fake 🤔.

  • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
    131·
    9 months ago

    “Israel” lies. Constantly. Shamelessly. It’s what they do. It’s policy. And the media helps them do it. This is exactly the sort of thing they have a history of fabricating. And they have a motive to fabricate it. Incidentally, Ukraine has also been exposed doing this same thing, claiming to have “intercepted” communications between Russian soldiers that are ridiculously obviously fake. Plus, the Zionist regime announced beforehand they would bomb the hospital and after they did it they were bragging about having hit “terrorists” until it became clear how horrified the world was and they had to try to deflect blame. Even without people going into detail debunking this you can be 100% certain it’s fake. The same goes for anything like this that they try to put out in the future. Don’t even fall for it in the first place.

  • darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml
    10·
    9 months ago

    How do you debunk this? Mossad has Arabic speakers, even Palestinians who are traitors. They could easily create this.

          • darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml
            2·
            9 months ago

            I’m not sure what you expect or even what I linked to you because to me it doesn’t matter. Israel are proven liars. Proven genocidal maniacs. And proven war-crimes and crimes against humanity committers. On the balance I’d say I’d need a lot, lot, lot stronger evidence than has been presented to disprove the idea that it was an Israeli bomb launched from a plane and prove that it was anything else.

            These people attacked a US war ship in cold blood, murdered American sailors and the US government covered it up. Given the US itself attacked the Kunduz hospital in Iraq (a human right’s violation), the fact they were willing to in the past cover up the murder of their own sailors and do nothing in reciprocity tells me about all I need to know about Israel and it’s impunity in which it operates.

  • Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml
    61·
    9 months ago

    Israel has proven they aren’t trustworthy time and time again, there is no reason to take anything they say at face value. I am not saying tey are incapable of telling the truth, but their statements shouldn’t just be assumed true either.

    The default positon with Israel shouldn’t be “how do I debunk their claim” but “is there enough verifiable third party information that could prove they are actually telling the truth”?

    It seems extremely suspect that their intelligence were able to produce a phone conversation that “confirms” exactly what the point of view they wanted. The same intelligence agency that apparently had no idea the operation was taking place is now able to isolate a singular phone conversation in the ensuing chaos, exactly when it would be the best possible PR move for them to make. Not to mention that I seriously doubt Hamas OPSEC is so poor that they are just making direct statements like that on the phone after keeping months of planning a perfect secret.

    Imagine if, prior to the Iraq war, America produced a phone conversation between two people with texan accents that went “Yes, it is a good thing we got all this yellowcake, isn’t it fellow terrorist?” “Yes, I too hate America fellow other terrorist”. This is what that phone call sounds like.

    • deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.mlOP
      3·
      9 months ago

      The default positon with Israel shouldn’t be “how do I debunk their claim” but “is there enough verifiable third party information that could prove they are actually telling the truth”?

      Well, that’s what I was trying to find… sorry if I sounded weird, but to me, this doesn’t seem to look like one of those simple false anecdotal claims like “Hamas uses human shields” sort of thing…

      Imagine if, prior to the Iraq war, America produced a phone conversation between two people with texan accents that went “Yes, it is a good thing we got all this yellowcake, isn’t it fellow terrorist?” “Yes, I too hate America fellow other terrorist”. This is what that phone call sounds like.

      Now that I think of it, I should relisten to that call…

      Edit: The tone reminds me of one of those English as a second language learning sources for foreigners…