• Nima@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    of course they are. it’s why I always encourage people not to buy them. they’re awful for the environment, they’re wasteful and they are lower quality than you’d get with most standard rechargeable e-cigarette kits.

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      6 months ago

      I don’t vape, but I can’t imagine they’re cheaper than re-usable vaping devices in the long run either.

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        oh my goodness yes. I couldn’t imagine buying a disposable every time I ran out.

        that would possibly be just as expensive as smoking regular cigarettes.

        I just use a little pod system that has replaceable coil heads. it was maybe 60 total because I bought two batteries. but I’ve not needed a replacement battery for my personal vape yet. Just have been replacing (or reusing) my coil heads.

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        6 months ago

        I do vape. The long-term reusable vapes are a LOT more expensive than the disposable ones. My current setup cost 100 USD before batteries or coils.

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            6 months ago

            Yes, in the long term you are saving money but if you have 20 bucks but not 100, what vape are you buying? That’s the point I’m making.

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              Honestly, even for twenty bucks, you can probably get a cheap rechargeable vape kit.

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                You can definitely get a shitty one that will have you back on the disposables within a few weeks until you save enough for a good system. Source: been there done that lol

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            If you really want long term savings… how about ditch your nicotine habit? That’s what - $1,500 per year? $100,000 over your lifetime?

            Oh, and medical bills on top of that. Hard to estimate that, but it could be more.

            I can think of something better to spend $100,000 on. Slot machines at a Casino would be a better option for example.

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              It’s not habit, it’s an addiction. Telling people to just quit smoking or vaping as if it’s that easy is ridiculous. People spend their whole lives trying to give up nicotine.

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              That’s absolutely flat out wrong and honestly concerning.

              For a start nicotine addiction (vaping) has not been proven to have any long term health strain on the medical system. To say having a gambling problem is better is just crazy.

              You realise the difference between nicotine addiction and gambling addiction right?

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          The pod style devices are cheaper than the older style cloud chuckers and most of those now are refillable and not the juul style ones. I’m seeing good ones for $30-$50. The non removable battery gives them less longevity although they’re still significantly more environmentally friendly than disposables. I used a fog machine to quit smoking and I’ve kept using them, but I definitely get why new vapers are largely going with the USB sticks now.

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          Not really anymore for the ones with built-in batteries like the disposables. Similar to disposibles they are typical 20W or less. You can get many of them for under $30, including the UWELL Caliburn line which is a quality product line. The G Coil packs are between $10 and $20 depending and last a week or more per coil of which there are 5. If you chain them, you’re probably looking at between 2 and 3 days per coil.

          The mods that require rechargeables like 18650 and other similar form factors sit between $50 and $70 for reputable brands, though for the ~200W mods it can be around $100 if you include their branded tanks.

          I’d bet your mod is at least a 100W+, probably over 150W depending on when you bought them (they are cheaper now than a few years, which were cheaper than a 10 years before that).

          The tanks are pretty cheap now too, even those multi-coil rebuildables. If you don’t rebuild your tank and use pre-built coils it is going to be a little more expensive. Those tanks for pre-builts tend to be a bit cheaper as well, like ~$30 for non-pods. Pod tanks tend to be around $10 - $15.

          I remember 80W mods going for between $100 and $300 back in 2011 depending if it was considered a “clone” or not.

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    6 months ago

    Well yeah. As far as I know, there’s no such thing as a single-cycle battery for a low-power application.