• naturalgasbad@lemmy.caOP
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    7 months ago

    Democracy is when you get to choose between voting for genocide and voting for fascism.

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      Democracy is when you get to choose between genocide over there OR genocide over there and right here too. Because you know damn well Trumps policy on Israel won’t be any different.

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        Sure it will. He’d have US jets running sorties on Palestinian civilians in addition to the aid so he could feel like a Big Boy.

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          I mean, he was the first president since Carter to not start a war, so, no, that really wasn’t his act.

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            Go lick orange asshole elsewhere. Or did you forget when he tried to start a war with Iran by assassinating one of their generals on Iraqi land against the Iraqi government’s wishes?

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              None of that changes what I said. Look up how many Biden and Obama did that to.

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                Look up how many Trump did that t- oh, wait, he revoked the rule implemented by Obama that demanded drone strike deaths be publicly reported, and outright ignored the legal demands to release the strikes, so you can’t.

                Fucking dumbass. Keep chowing on Great Orange’s literal shit, and maybe he’ll deign to grab you by the pussy too.

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                  I’m not American. Trumps track record was a serious improvement for people hold that office, all you have to do is look at the facts and numbers, and ignore how unpleasant he was. I know, I know, Baracks class n charisma made everything seem OK when they were literally murdering a head of state to intentionally destabilize but it wasn’t

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                    I’m not American.

                    Clearly it hasn’t stopped you from attaching your lips to Trump’s asshole. “Just look at the numbers!” right after being shown that numbers are quite literally not available because of Trump’s explicit reversal of previous policy. It’s like those pig-fuckers saying “Read the transcript!”, not realizing one of the first fucking lines of the document is saying that it’s not a transcript. Just utter, brainless cocksucking for a STD-ridden loser.

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        7 months ago

        Capitalism is when your government system slides into fascism but you still need to pay your bills 🤷

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      Voting for fascism is also voting for genocide. You’re choices are a little genocide without fascism or a lot of genocide with fascism. I know what I’m choosing.

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          Go ahead and vote for an option you know for sure won’t win. I hope it satisfies your vanity.

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          From a utilitarian point of view, it probably makes more sense to attempt to minimize suffering rather than opting out of the decision and thereby passively enable greater suffering.

          But hey, it’s the trolley problem all over again, and people hate even thinking about that one.

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      Clever, but wrong. You actually get to choose between:

      1. Continuing to give $600 million in annual aid to Gaza and diplomacy to try to get Israel to minimize civilian casualties while they understandably pursue Hamas terrorists, Or,
      2. Fascism and complete disregard for civilian casualties.

      Perhaps neither is to your taste, but there are stark differences in the two positions.

      Yes, I know, actual rational policy-making is so boring. It is much less satisfying than over-simplified, one-sided memes. But, you know, that’s what adults do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯