This is terrific. Thank you for starting this discussion.

I don’t think we can or should wait for individual users to make these decisions. Server admins are the ones who understand the risks and so should make this call. Guidance for server admins based on past experience (cough XMPP!) should be quite welcome.

I might refine the bit about altered API versions to really focus on the real problem: proprietary extensions. We probably want to leave the door open to try out additions to the spec that come with detailed RFCs.

But we know from XMPP that proprietary extensions are a huge problem.

For a moment there, I really did see five latinum bars.

Indeed. It is, I daresay, fucking perfect.

"When we decided to give the test to the development team (about 15 developers) — most of them got scores that were lower than our threshold (45%), despite them all being rock-solid developers. Also, there were some candidates who managed to get 95% and above — but would then just be absolutely awful during the interview — we would later discover that they were paying someone to complete the technical test on their behalf.

There is no substitute for taking the time to sit down and talk to someone."

That’s pretty good advice. Interesting read.

As part of the eternal September myself, we didn’t just use AOL disks as coasters, we used them for awesome pranks like filling eachother’s cars to the brim with them. It was truly astonishing how many of those disks were around.

I’m planning the same.

I like to roll a d4.

4 - Adlib an outcome that is favorable to them, beyond all reason. With my players, sometimes this just means nothing at all happens. In these cases I’ll use anything to make it work out for them, from divine favor, to a key NPC breaking rank “I always loved you guys!”

3 - They achieve what they hoped for, and as many weird (but reasonable) side effects as I can think of also happen.

2 - As little happens as is reasonably possible. Often, with my players, that means just 6d6 fire over a 20ft radius. Often after having whatever they tried misfire first, only to have them try again.

1 - I unpack a nice handful of d12 and roll for blast radius, save DC and damage.

Modified, of course, for the situation.

Specific damage on a 2 or 1 should - like anything they couldn’t reasonably prepare for - be attention grabbing, but unlikely to be lethal. A 2 should as anticlimactic as reasonably possible.

That is true.

Let’s not defederate from every corporate player. Some of them can probably respect reasonable rules of civility.

But fuck Meta. We already know how this plays out.

We know there’s a huge wave of hatred and misinformation incoming. We’ve seen it on their other platforms.

Yeah. I’ll switch to an instance that is defederated from Threads, if mine doesn’t.

I left Meta’s other properties to avoid state sponsored hate speech. I won’t use a platform that gives hate speech a platform.

I don’t need to wait to know if Meta will do that. I already know.

Yeah…We do it beacuse we’re cheapskate bastards, trying to get more than we’re willing to pay for.

Source: I worked for a cheapskate bastard, at one point.

Nice. I didn’t realize there were do many awful Vulcans. This has been enlightening.

Can we get an honorable mention for Spock’s brother?

Agreed. PornHub is probably a pretty solid representation of all web traffic. --Todo: insert obvious joke here–.

I missed the “PornHub” in the corner at first. Maybe I won’t share this with colleagues…

Oh hey, thanks! I never particularly wanted any of my apps to route around the VPN, but there the option it is under Advanced, when split tunneling is enabled. Could be handy. Thanks!

there will be a drought of genuinely good talent in the industry.

You’re exactly right, and there’s actually already such a drought. We had this same conversation 15 years ago and it doesn’t feel like we’ve made much progress.

has to change imo, the path should become clearer than telling everyone to get 5 years of experience then come back when they’re ready.

Absolutely, it must change. We need to find ways to do better.

You suck. I had no idea about Vader. What the fuck?! Fuck you.

If you’re interested in that level of control, it’s time to look hard at GrapheneOS. “Internet” is a permission you can grant or deny for each app, under GrapheneOS.

But I’m not aware of a way to selectively direct phone traffic through Proton VPN, at the phone. Even on GrapheneOS.

Enough skill with an expensive router could do it, but only on your home network, or only while routing all of your phone traffic back to your home network via yet another VPN.

Edit: TIL, Proton VPN supports split tunneling. Sweet! Look under Settings - Advanced - Split Tunneling - then pick your apps to include/exclude.

Edit 2: TIL DivestOS also supports “Internet” as a per app Permission. Very cool.

Spoiler tag would be welcome here. I understand that Last Ronin keeps the identity of the remaining turtle under wraps for awhile.

Edit: But that would have been my guess, anyway.