Isn’t that where birds belong, though? In trees?

It’s pretty normal, yeah. It’s just being empathetic for someone else in a bad spot. I usually don’t donate, but I make an effort to at least have some small talk with them. One of the worst aspects of homelessness is the feeling of your humanity just slipping away, and just reminding them they’re people really helps.

Of course, only do this if it’s safe, so maybe not the middle of the night, or a super-busy intersection, but when you CAN, it probably means more than what you could donate.

Seems like they should really keep using 4/20, seems like an effective pre-screening tool for places I don’t even want to walk by, let alone work at.

It’s a wild ride for sure

I mean it’s the same plot as repo: the genetic opera, genetic opera is just set to music. They grow artificial organs, sell em, and If you can’t afford to pay, they repo them. Paris Hilton gets her face ripped off. It’s great.

Wait is that a different movie than repo: the genetic opera?

Who said anything about not criticizing them? Jesus you are unhinged. The fuck you think I’m doing everywhere else? Making actual fucking arguments about why Nazis are bad, not just spouting “kill people kill people!”

Do you want to END Nazis or do you just want to be able to KILL Nazis?

This thread IS full of a bunch of psychopaths, but it’s not the ones advocating for not-violence.

By all means, if someone’s already getting, or in imminent danger of becoming, violent, do what you have to to stop that. Anything else and you’re a murderous psycho.

It’s a shit argument and it’s ABSOLUTELY thought policing. You can’t say someone will do something until there’s been something done. It’s just not how things work. Yes, that includes if they strongly believe that any specific group of people should be killed, for any reason, unless they’ve ACTUALLY KILLED A PERSON OR MADE AN ATTEMPT. Anything short of that? That’s called thought policing bud.

Unless you’re not talking modern-day Nazis. If you’re just talking about the WW2 Nazis that actively rounded up Jews and didn’t see any problems with it, well… Yeah, we went to war over that. It was one of the few good reasons for a conflict. That’s dead and done.

Understood. Context matters, for both of us.

Oh snap, Nazis all died in ww2? Fuck why didn’t these guys get the memo?

People died in the war. Some of them were Nazis. But NAZIS themselves did not die. You can’t kill an IDEA by killing people. You kill an idea with better ideas, with kinder words, and with more compassion.

My? Careful, don’t make such bold assumptions. Nazis suck, I’m with you on that. But do you actually not see the issues with what you said? Why are we assuming the individual has done something to hurt anyone, rather than just have some less-than-savory beliefs? It’s all very convenient, using the sins of a few in a group you hate to blame the whole group, right? I’d hate it if anyone else decided they hated a group enough to wish every member dead because of some small populations shitty actions. It’s a bit thought policey, and a lot fucking insane.

It’s the paradox of tolerance and it’s bullshit. Daryl Davis has converted more KKK members talking to them than anyone has with a fist.

Edit to add: killing Nazis doesn’t defeat fascism. You can kill people with weapons, but words are the armaments of ideas. You want to kill an idea, it’s through words.

This whole thing is disgusting. Nazis suck. So do people calling for violence or removal of rights from literally any human. Buncha Nazis in here, just against a kind of person it’s ok to be horrible to.

With all due respect, with just how many people are literally calling for violence in this thread, no, I didn’t connect those dots either. If you’re actually truthful about not meaning they shouldn’t have human rights, I’d strongly consider editing your previous statement. If you leave it, you’re feeding into the hate echo chamber that you actually seem pretty opposed to. Words have got to be specific, if you’re going to speak in absolutes, or people WILL misunderstand or mischaracterize you.

“they’d do that to us in a heartbeat” is both wrong (not every person who entertains these ideas actually wants to kill anyone) and also not even a good point. If you want to improve the world noticeably, you have to be BETTER THAN not the same as. Go talk to a nazi, actually understand what they think and feel, and figure out where that disconnect is.

The first sentence you posted is exactly the thread that line of thought leads down. Disenfranchised people need to be talked to, met with empathy from the people they’ve been told are The Other. That’s the only way to destigmatize the two from each other.

We just watched that movie the other day. I support his message, but man, dude’s gotta pick his battles lol.

Benefit of the doubt is a huge deal. It’s entirely possible to enjoy music and have NO idea of the message, themes, content, etc. source: Pumped Up Kicks.

Edit to add: Iced Earth. Really fun power metal band. Loved a ton of their stuff, and then found out the bands lead was arrested at the jan. 6 riot. That stuff doesn’t really bleed into their music, and I was avoiding them for a while because of it, but at the end of the day, the music is good, and that’s why we listen to music.

The tolerance paradox is bullshit. Source: Daryl Davis, the black dude who converted a ton (like over 80) KKK members by just being a tolerant human to them.

You have to tolerate the person, not the message. You can say “you’re a valid human being” and “the stuff that comes out of your mouth is actually terrible” at the same time. Doing anything else pushes all of those valid humans with bad ideas together and makes a big echo chamber.