Glacier doesn’t bill on “API calls”. Only on storage and retrieval. Uploading into glacier is free, storing it is cheap. Moving it out is relatively expensive. Pulling a few TB out of glacier will be a couple hundred bucks or so. The calculator can tell you for sure.

If you’re never going to touch the data, it’s a good option. If you plan on using it like a Google Drive alternative, it’s not a good option.

If you’re pulling small amounts of data, such as a single backup or even a few individual files, it’s still not that expensive.

Despite the common phrase, “cloud” doesn’t mean “other people’s computers” and despite the utility to the self-hosting community, products like Owncloud aren’t meant for our use case.

I had no real idea how to phrase it, but all these posts have helped. What I was actually focused on when I posted was mainly hardware that can do what the Arlo cameras do:

• Wifi + battery/solar my house is old and hardwires are a pain in the ass.
• High def, preferably 4k, but 1080 is ok.
• Night vision, color or not doesn’t matter
• Motion-activated, and preferably some way to filter out and not trigger on things like passing traffic cars.
• As small a form-factor as possible.

The Reolink hardware mentioned below seems to fit the bill hardware-wise.

I hadn’t even really considered the software, as I don’t need a lot of features. All I need is to use motion-activated capture to stream to some local storage, and an ability to view a live-stream when I want one. But it looks like there’s a lot of options I need to consider.

Reolink looks like a solid answer, thanks.

I already hate Ubiquiti’s Unifi networking that I got myself stuck with. I won’t do any of their other products.

I’m somewhat stuck on Unifi for wifi APs and Routers, because all the other consumer-grade devices can’t handle the number of small IoT devices I’ve got. Netgear and Asus just lose connections with ESP devices and refuse to let them connect after about a dozen. The commercial grade stuff, in addition to being too expensive, is all rack mounted, high power draw and noisy af.

Aside from the fact that my stuff seems stable on the Ubiquiti hardware, I hate the products. The interface is terrible, Unifi insists on hiding the advanced networking behind a halfass gui, the SSH console lacks half the features of even that terrible gui, and every time i try to create a new routed network, the wifi devices stop connecting.

/shrug Do what works. I spent years maintaining disks in my basement full of data I never touched. Every now and any then I’d have to swap a disk for a couple hundred bucks. Twice, the entire Synology array failed and cost me 5-700. Now I pay $4-5/month and don’t have to think about it ever again otherwise.

Still less than an equivalent RAID array. Particularly if you consider that archives are very rarely extracted as a complete bulk, vs pulling the specific records needed.

Guess it depends on how much you trust that Amazon is going to steal your data instead of doing the thing you’re paying them for, vs a house fire or media failure or whatever.

There’s also pretty clear rules about unpaid bills, the data doesn’t just vaporize.

This is what we call a “risk assessment”, and imo if I must have that data available long-term, then a single copy on DVDs in a closet isn’t good enough.

Last months bill for my entire Amazon account was $4.72. most of that was the glacier storage.

I think you can technically do it, but it’s expensive to retrieve. But that isn’t the point of an archive.

OP said “archive”, not “backup”. Glacier is for days you need to keep but rarely touch.

Us-East. Look specifically at glacier, which is long term, near free to store, expensive to remove.

The data remains yours if you encrypt it. Someone else’s computer saves you all the time and effort of maintaining and monitoring hardware.

You want to use the actual services meant for this. S3 or glacier or something, not just consumer cloud storage like Google drive or Dropbox.

Self hosting principals aside, is this data actually important? If so, then don’t fuck around with self hosting it. Are you looking for lowest cost? Then don’t waste a bunch of money spinning your own disks.

Amazon glacier to guarantee availability and your own encryption to guarantee privacy.

It’s currently running me about $4/month for around 10tb that I don’t want to lose but just don’t want to deal with. An equivalent HDD solution would be around $500, that’s 10 years to break even assuming zero disk failures and zero personal maintenance time.

Plus it’s guaranteed. Inherent multiple copies, has SLA, and there’s no worry about the service just disappearing. It’s they decide to shut down or raise prices or whatever, you can reevaluate and move.

Edit: Glacier and similar services are meant for archival which is the term OP used. You never expect to need it again, but can’t get rid of it. Retrieval cost is mostly irrelevant, but yes much more expensive. (I’d wager still less expensive than a home RAID array.)

Lol imagine ever having considered megaupload as your backup solution.

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