Germans making excuses to hate innocent people. You making excuses to hate innocent people. How is a different?

You said it yourself. You don’t know what you’re talking about here. And despite your continuing ad hominem’s and antagonism. I will take one last moment to point out that the use of the term is scholarly and meant to be taken in context. And not colloquially or in layman’s terms. It was no more man-made than the dust bowls were in the US. Or any of the other droughts and famines throughout the rest of the world in the exact same times. Saying they were man-made is like claiming that all global warming is man-made. It’s not completely. But man is making it worse. But we are also in a natural global warming trend. Context is important. Eldritch is 100% of correct in this instance. They’ve correctly stated multiple times the human activity made it worse. Which is what the scholarly consensus is. Their only major mistake was engaging those who were disingenuous, smarmy, and or bad faith. Same mistake I made

Also, it’s not what I think. But thank you for telegraphing your bad faith. The people who wrote the software stack. Literally have stated many places many times stated the reason directly.

I’ll side any day with someone passionately espousing the truth, over someone who calmly lies

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1. For someone uninterested you sure are interested.

2. Their argument was not adhominem. Wow! They did call out the other person for misrepresenting facts and being disingenuous/ bad faith. But that’s not on the same level. One of the mildest ad hominem’s possible.

3. At this point you are as guilty as anyone else about the very thing you’re crying about.

4. No scholars do not agree that the dust bowl or any of the famines in Asia or Europe were man-made. Nor have they ever stated that to be the case. As Eldritch said. They were absolutely exacerbated by human actions. But we’re not man-made.

5. The platform you are crying on exist for the very fact that Reddit is heavily right wing leaning. You are wildly wrong.

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Now hear me out here. This old tony, best Channel. Or greatest channel?

Yes. But generally it takes long-term constant exposure to the thing they think they hate. In order to override the indoctrinated or programmed in misconceptions.

What do communists and socialists have to apologize for? To be clear I know what you are hamfistedly referring to. But it isn’t “communists” or “socialists”.

It’s because as a solid minority. That is often hated in the places they once had jurisdiction for good reason. You generally don’t get the chance. Or if you did, it would close you off in a tiny little Echo chamber that’s already far too strong. And I say this as someone who is supportive and open towards communism and abolishing Concepts such as private property and replacing with personal property. But I am sanctially against ml communism.

I absolutely think there can be a discussion about whether or not Vladimir Lenin’s Legacy on the whole was neutral. He definitely did some good things for russia. Though those same things were happening around the world regardless. So it is impossible to say that they wouldn’t have happened without him. But it is possible to say absolutely that a lot of death destruction and brutality were enabled by him. And his ideology single-handedly setback discussions of all left-wing Economic Development for a century or so. Those defending Stalin Mao or even Xi today. Well I don’t have anything diplomatic to say about them.

The ongoing litigation against the company begs to differ. Also didn’t Musk step down as CEO of Twitter a while back? It seems his tangential bullshit has quite an impact. I’ll be honest I think the people actually working at Tesla do their best to try to moderate his unadulterated fuck ups. But they’re not safe from it and neither is anyone else who does business with them.