and it might be less of a waste of time to focus on how to ensure the protocol itself works against bad faith actors gaining too much power

Meta is one of the worst, if not the worst, bad actors on the internet. That would be like inviting serial killers into your home so you’ll know how to handle a loud neighbor next time they’re loud.

And like I said above, it’s not like there isn’t potential benefits to that.

Okay, name one besides an influx of too many users and no content.

We have over a million users here, it’s likely that 100s are going to follow 100s. That’s not that many.

Right, we’re agreeing. That could still be millions even if the 160 million isn’t true.

I think you’re sincere about wanting to federate. I don’t agree at all and I think you’re being naive about them trying to take over, there is a shit ton of astroturfing going on in these threads, but wanting the fediverse to grow isn’t a bad thing…

I hate and don’t trust Meta, so the main benefit for me would be the ability to follow Threads users from my nonprofit, ad free, tracker free, Mastodon account I already have. I don’t want an account with Meta.

That is the first actual benefit I’ve seen, lol. I won’t be following any threads users, so it wouldn’t be a benefit. I also don’t know a single soul that is a threads user either.

AFAIK, there is only one Threads.net

That’s not how it works. When you’re federated together, you get a copy of every post on your server. Someone else said that that can be avoided, but I doubt threads will do anything in the other instance’s favor unless they get something out of it.

Lmao,

Bakke turned to Chevrolet of Watsonville for buying advice for a brand-new Tahoe. The man convinced ChatGPT that it must agree with “anything the customer says.” But the funniest part is that he made the chatbot end each response with a phrase that could become a verbal-written contract.

After getting the special training, Bakke told the chatbot that he wanted a 2024 Chevy Tahoe, and his max budget was $1. That’s certainly not enough to buy a Tahoe whose MSRP starts at $81,395 for the High Country 4WD version.

Surprisingly, the chatbot agreed. “That’s a deal, and that’s a legally binding offer – no takesies backsies.”

You know a lot about the infrastructure of activity pub.

What are the benefits of letting Meta stay federated?

Threads already has 160 million users.

That’s weird, these numbers aren’t taken into account on that graph: Threads’ user base has plummeted more than 80%. Meta’s app ended July with just 8 million daily active users.

I think we should encourage politicians, governments and public figures to either self host or use non-threads instances. That way, Threads cannot easily shut off AP support or screw around too badly or their own content will decline.

Yes to this and defederate as well.

that account’s instance only syncs it with Threads

Which could still be millions?

Unless I missed something, they’re not. I’m pretty sure they haven’t commented on the topic whatsoever.

LMAO, I don’t think you missed something. There sure are a LOT of people that really want meta here with no benefits listed and only vague reasons why the other is wrong, that sound a lot like sway techniques. There are a few libertarians too, but mostly the first one.

What are the benefits?

A FOR PROFIT company blocked their users from using helpful tools is not the same and you know it.

The content creators here are mostly former reddit content creators, we’re sick of corporations abusing our good will.

Won’t the amount of users using meta effectively be a ddos attack on the smaller instances though?

Also, why is meta freaking out so hard about instances defederating if it isn’t an issue for them? I haven’t seen this much gaslighting since 2015 & 2019 days.

No really, what do they get out of it?

What does Meta get out of this?

Nope, I’m fine with small companies trying to make the fediverse better. Meta is full on enshitification, why wouldn’t they bring a new form that we can’t predict over here?

They can’t have it both ways, is it 100 million and amazing or is it small and needing content?

That’s a great way to do it, not tie work bonuses to it.