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  • There are good reasons to want to collaborate with ideological enemies.

    Conservatives are generally good people, and are right about many things. They are just misguided on a few economic points. I know many people like this. They just haven’t read widely enough, or can’t think creatively about economics, or have never heard any other theory convincingly expressed.

    People will generally stay in their boxes and read only their own wikis. Conservapedia people will remain conservative and misguided forever. But maybe you want to influence people outside your box. That’s where you want to share a space with other groups. If it’s equally easy to read any perspective, people people might read a few and change their minds about what the truth is. This is a good thing for a very niche but very true perspective like marxism.

    For this to work, the new shared wiki has to be widely read. That means it has to become bigger than wikipedia, to supplant wikipedia.

    The most important thing is to make it obvious to close-minded people that there are always different valid perspectives on every issue. If the go-to encyclopedia has this concept built-in, many people will start to understand it.


  • LOL

    Yes of course. Just because this other project is possible doesn’t make your project less valuable.

    I would like to make this. It would replace wikipedia with something more better. I have a much simpler encyclopedia project I’d like to do first, for practice. And I don’t even have the skills to do the simple project yet.


  • roastpotatothief@lemmy.mltoProleWiki@lemmygrad.mlProleWiki >> Wikipedia
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    Yes that’s all true. Wikipedia deals with this as every encyclopaedia does, by feigning being neutral, feigning that it is possible to be neutral, and posting some version of events as the truth. That was fine for 20th century naïve readers, but not tenable today.

    Prolewiki can give the Marxist version of events and that’s a valuable addition, another credible perspective. But it will always cover only niche topics for niche readers.

    Better than this would be a project bigger then Wikipedia. It would be more useful and credible to readers, because it shows diverse views. It could replace Wikipedia.

    On day one it would show exactly the same content as Wikipedia, but would quickly grow to be broader.

    Imagine Wikipedia, prolewiki, anarchistwiki, neoconwiki, keynsianwiki, all on the same website on different tabs. People can flick from one to the other.

    People who start off looking only at the neocon version will one day flick to the prole one. They might find it more convincing.


  • i can’t believe that nobody has made a fork of Wikipedia to give a broader and more neutral perspective.

    It would be a very simple project, because you would simply add to the existing database. You would have tabs. “mainstream” would be a usual Wikipedia content. You could switch to the “Marxist” tab to see modified content.










  • here?

    most of those behind were for being “reactionary” or “not an answer”. sounds more like general censorship of ideas and opinions. there was even a post banned for “bad faith arguments, downplaying severity of western settler-colonialism, and both sidesing Ukraine conflict”.

    the mod logs interesting. but i don’t see anything relevant. or maybe i don’t see how it is relevant.