I’ve applied for jobs a few times and this has always been a problem. Now that I’ve been out of college for a while it’s even more of a problem. I don’t have anyone from college that would even remember me. I can’t use my current coworkers because I don’t want my current employer to know I’m leaving until I have a new job lined up. I don’t keep in touch with old coworkers. I don’t do anything outside of work as far as volunteering or anything. I know I’m not supposed to use friends or family. Who is even left after that? The only people I have the contact info for are friends, family, and my current boss.

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      The problem with this is if you have parents who solemnly believe honesty is best policy. My parents might lie about my issues by way of omission, to try to paint me in a good light but they sure as hell won’t lie that they are my parents.

      I used people who have only seen me at my best, but aren’t relatives.

      • volunteer leaders from places I love to volunteer. If I love volunteering there I don’t usually see it as a job, so I’ll always be at my enthusiastic passionate best.

      • take a week’s work experience somewhere and use them as a reference (or just apply at the place you volunteered if you liked it, a week is enough to give a good impression better than any reference) - a week is usually long enough to give you a reference, but short enough that it’s still a novel experience so you don’t have time to show your worst or how quickly you burn out.

      • my previous boss was great for use as a reference as he’s honest, but he has a way of drastically downplaying everyone’s bad qualities to other people (if there were no good qualities, he would’ve fired you anyway), while at the same time managing to make you feel bad for having those same qualities.

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    They won’t background check your references. I invented “Steve” as my manager and left his number. Turns out “Steve” was actually my boyfriend.

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    Disclaimer: this is based on the UK, other jurisdictions may vary.

    The purpose of references is to confirm that you are who you say you are. You don’t need someone to vouch for your brilliance and dedication, only your existence. Any former school or employer should be willing to confirm that yes, you did work/study there when you say you worked/studied there. Get in touch with them and ask who reference requests should be directed to.

    No one should expect you to provide a reference from a current employer until after you’ve been offered the job. So if you need to use your current employer, just ask them to hold off until the pre-employment phase.

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    So this is advice I’ve offered many co-workers and friends over the years. This advice actually came directly from my first boss.

    Always try and make time to have a lunch with a former co-worker. Just one, co-worker, it’s one hour, once a month. Just have a lunch with someone, anyone from a former job. This helps in a couple of ways, you keep your network open and you keep it expanding. These people aren’t your friends, but they could turn into friendship if you wish them to be.

    Prior to the pandemic, I had a list of my months, and which co-workers I would reach out to from former jobs. This has been huge for me as it has helped me land new job opportunities and it has turned some former workers into great friendships. But it’s just 12 hours a year, and 12 lunch’s a year. But it’s just enough that I’ll always have someone I can use as a reference.

    I’ve now had many different jobs over the years, but I still schedule lunches with former co-workers. But I make sure to reach back out to people to set these up, it’s helped me also become more social than I normally am.

    So once you’ve got this new job in the bag, do not lose touch with the old co-workers make an effort to have lunch with someone, anyone, but at least someone you wouldn’t pull your hair out after spending an hour with them.

    It’s just 12 hours once a year.

    edit: don’t get me wrong this isn’t an easy task my first boss had to force me to go to lunches I didn’t want to go to.