• hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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    7 months ago

    Misusing a hospital is a goalpost shift. Politics is in every aspect of life. If there is a poster in the hospital calling for socialism in a socialist country like Cuba, should they not operate there? What about a workplace safety sign mandated by government which might include information about how to contact their union?

    There is no clear line of where politics ends.

    You’re obviously purposely misinterpreting. There were weapons found there but its main purpose was a hospital and it’s still very unclear as to how much the hospital was used. We call the term a human shield as we as a species are meant to be above killing the innocent to get to the bad. I think it’s objectively worse to kill innocent people in a hospital including babies than it is to store weapons illigitimately at a hospital.

    There is no right here. Only shades of evil. Hamas wish to carry out genocide. That’s horrible. Israel are carrying our genocide. That’s worse.

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      7 months ago

      If there is a poster in the hospital calling for socialism in a socialist country like Cuba, should they not operate there?

      The Geneva convention specifies what sort of things are valid military targets. Posters aren’t military equipment, ammunition is. Hamas can put as many fliers, books and posters as they want in hospitals and it’s not a problem. It’s the Ammo depots that make it a military target.

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        7 months ago

        Yes and it specified hospitals as not being a target.

        My point is that there are shades of grey in terms of what is considered political.

        There is no evidence this far that anyone involved in healthcare was aware there were weapons, even if there were rumours.these we’re not military depots. So let’s not stretch the yruth. This was hiding things in secret locations. Certainly, they should not be there, but that doesn’t make the hospital political. It makes whoever chose the location callous with other people’s lives.

        This was at one hospital. Currently, only a third of hospitals remain operational.

        The Geneva convention also required to minimise civilian casualties. That is not happening.

        I don’t think you will find anyone saying ammunitions should be allowed in hospitals. It’s clearly wrong. However, the deaths of the civilians seeking medical treatment is also wrong and objectively more so.

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          7 months ago

          Yes and it specified hospitals as not being a target.

          ## Article 19

          The protection to which civilian hospitals are entitled shall not cease unless they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy. Protection may, however, cease only after due warning has been given, naming, in all appropriate cases, a reasonable time limit, and after such warning has remained unheeded.

          The fact that sick or wounded members of the armed forces are nursed in these hospitals, or the presence of small arms and ammunition taken from such combatants which have not yet been handed to the proper service, shall not be considered to be acts harmful to the enemy.

          Like that section is there. It’s available for the reading. You don’t have to lie about it like it’s some sort of blanket protection. Israel gives warnings before it bombs these locations.

          The Geneva convention also required to minimise civilian casualties. That is not happening.

          This is objectively untrue. Gaza isn’t big; you could kill 50% of the population with a WW2-era artillery bombardment. Israel is using expensive munitions; creating safe zones for civilians to evacuate to and phoning civilians before bombing dual-use locations in addition to roof knocking. If this was the Russians there’d be 200k dead Gazans right now.