This is what I keep saying. Making up a story that’s countered by the facts won’t change the facts.
It’s not trolling to inject facts and reason to hateful propaganda and false narratives. But when that is inconvenient to the lies, I can understand why pretending that’s the case is the next step down.
To avoid personal attacks like yours, in possible violation of the rules, I’ll just leave it there.
My “personal attacks” are direct criticisms of your behaviour. I’m not calling you names, I’m calling you out for what you’re doing.
This article is about IDF soldiers killing hostages. Your reponse was:
Friendly fire happens in war, especially with an enemy who uses civilians as shields and seeks to maximize civilian deaths for PR.
My reply was that these hostages did everything they could to demonstrate they weren’t hostile, yet they were still executed by soliders. That is a war crime. There is no excusing that as friendly fire. Even if they weren’t hostages, the IDF should not have executed them, and doing so was the crime of murder regardless of their affiliation.
That isn’t the war crime of IDF leaders or of Bibi, that is the war crime of the soldiers that committed the act, and their commanding officers. The leaders only have a superfluous responsibility, easily obfuscated by varied interpretations of terminology. In other words, if you pass it off up the chain of command you end up with no one being responsible.
The thing happened. The person who did it is 100% responsible. The person in charge of the person who did it is also responsible, to some lesser degree. The person in charge of the military is also responsible, maybe not as much as the person who did it but perhaps more than their immediate commander, given the type of propaganda the person in charge passed down.
I think you’re trying to pass up responsibility to those that won’t face any of it, in an effort to exonerate those who are actually responsible on the ground.
My argument is that everyone involved is responsible and all of them should be held suitably to account.
This is what I keep saying. Making up a story that’s countered by the facts won’t change the facts.
It’s not trolling to inject facts and reason to hateful propaganda and false narratives. But when that is inconvenient to the lies, I can understand why pretending that’s the case is the next step down.
To avoid personal attacks like yours, in possible violation of the rules, I’ll just leave it there.
My “personal attacks” are direct criticisms of your behaviour. I’m not calling you names, I’m calling you out for what you’re doing.
This article is about IDF soldiers killing hostages. Your reponse was:
My reply was that these hostages did everything they could to demonstrate they weren’t hostile, yet they were still executed by soliders. That is a war crime. There is no excusing that as friendly fire. Even if they weren’t hostages, the IDF should not have executed them, and doing so was the crime of murder regardless of their affiliation.
That isn’t the war crime of IDF leaders or of Bibi, that is the war crime of the soldiers that committed the act, and their commanding officers. The leaders only have a superfluous responsibility, easily obfuscated by varied interpretations of terminology. In other words, if you pass it off up the chain of command you end up with no one being responsible.
The thing happened. The person who did it is 100% responsible. The person in charge of the person who did it is also responsible, to some lesser degree. The person in charge of the military is also responsible, maybe not as much as the person who did it but perhaps more than their immediate commander, given the type of propaganda the person in charge passed down.
I think you’re trying to pass up responsibility to those that won’t face any of it, in an effort to exonerate those who are actually responsible on the ground.
My argument is that everyone involved is responsible and all of them should be held suitably to account.
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