https://twitter.com/pollpottt/status/1737950380820955561

Im defently active there and its awful. I talk about it a lot but most of the people there are MLM or (worse imo, the MLMs there are decently reasonable) leftcoms with awful takes on geopol and aes. (And thats letting aside the anarchists, who are worse on everything except social and cultural issues). There are some decent MLs there but its like needle in a haystack.

And its also like dodging landmines, because when you see good geopol takes in the replies, DO NOT TRUST, theres like an 80% chance theyre a social reactionairy, probably a Hazite, and their support for Russia is probably not critical lol.

Its awful.

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    It does seem like a self-selecting process. My first thought here was “ew, why would anyone waste time arguing politics on twitter?” And I don’t have a twitter account, so I’m not throwing my hat into that ring.

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      Thats part of it. But in think also a lot of socially progressive communists are driven to Ultraism out of a desire to be as far away from the Hazites possible whilest remaining technically communisfs because the Hazites are so cringe and uncool, lol.

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        The Maoists long predate the Hazites though. “Patsocs” as a movement haven’t been around for very long at all, but there’s a long tradition of western leftists adopting idealistic ultra tendencies. I think both groups do have a lot in common. Anyone so terminally online that they think twitter arguments are a good use of their time is probably pretty out of touch with reality and so prefers idealistic solutions to problems.

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          Yeah i didnt mean to say Maoism came from a reaction to patsocs obv. I dont think the New Peoples Army is very concerned with Infared lol

          I meant that socially progressive communists on twitter are driven to MLM and leftcom to avoid being like them

          And im half convinced that the leading patsocs are a psyop to make antimperialism look inherently socially reactionairy.

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            I’d say both twitter patsocs and twitter maoists are psyops designed to funnel people away from actually understanding leftist theory. Both groups fundmentally and wilfully misinterpret socialist ideas to push their own personal ideas, which emphasise adventurism and very rigid adherence to a philosophical position. Neither group are truly a threat to capital and waste their time arguing on the internet instead of organising.

            Though Patsocs are 100% an op, I just suspect twitter maoists are one, I don’t have any proof.