• sisiek@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    typical lemmy moment when you prefer to bash the US when Russian bots are on rampage?

    I’m from Eastern Europe. I hate what Russia did to my country and my family in effect. Long history. I hate what they are doing to Ukraine. And this comment section feels weird, because for me more US soldiers in Europe mean more peace and stability.

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      1 year ago

      I’m not disagreeing with you but assuming anyone online disagreeing with US policy is a “Russian bot” with absolutely no proof is a very typical reddit lib moment, which was my point. That can just be thrown around to shut down anything.

      If you don’t like Russia and are pro-US, I don’t automatically assume you’re a US bot.

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      1 year ago

      You have a completely different outlook then. I’m sorry, but we are not your protector. The US is on the other side of the world.

      We are criticizing the US. Nobody is trying to say the US is worse than Russia here. We are meetelt pointing out the fact that escalating troops in Europe is a bad baby step towards all out war. If the us commits troops on the ground on the side of Ukraine, Russia will declare ware and nato article 5 will be invoked. All sides are nuclear poweres. First it might start with tactical nukes on your side of the world. Then it will escalate to ICBMs. It will end when there are no countries or borders and most of the world is dead and in ruin with Eastern Europe being ground zero. Idk why you would want to escalate the situation with US military involvement when it literally would make your part of the world a nuclear wasteland.

      But hey, if not wanting to see the world get nuked makes me a Russian bot so be it. Better that than a pentagon warhawk trying to profit off this whole thing.

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        1 year ago

        Funny thing is the US military actually is my protector. The US has strong business interests in the area, and it protects them. It’s not going one way only. I’m enjoying this, because the alternative is a power vacuum that will be filled by Russian mafia in a second once your people decide to do business and profit elsewhere. So yeah, different outlook.

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          1 year ago

          And that right there is the problem. The us sees itself as some sort of imperial world police and it is not. Sorry, but we’ve got enough problems going on in or own country that we shouldn’t be subsidizing your defense and social programs.

          Europe get the benefit of having American pretectors by not spending as much on defense and in turn getting to use that for internal development. I think it served it’s purpose in rebuilding Europe after WW2, but now that the EU is a power on par with the US I think it’s high time for a European military to defend itself instead of relying on the whims of an imperial power.