It’s written in the article what that person thinks should happen.
I’m not trusting just my own personal experience, this is the reality in areas outside of the West Bank.
You’re just not interested in anything different from what you believe.
You’re ridiculing my answers and clearly you aren’t interested in any answer that is not according to what you believe happens in Israel.
And considering you don’t care that much about accuracy and about omitting parts of what people say or about what’s happening, or about context, it’s not suprising you view things the way you do and believe I’m downplaying things or lying.
So there’s nothing bad about the slogan “All Lives Matter”, because all lives do matter? You’re saying context is irrelevant? News omitting parts of what someone said is irrelevant?
So you support news reporting on Palestinians stabbing Jews in the West Bank, without reporting on the settlers that attacked their village a day before?
I mean, what’s a little omission right?
That is true.
But instead they killed Jews. Which is much worse than that initial plan.
What is your point in this?
Because I’ve had people say the same thing because they weren’t white.
It’s easier for me to understand why you’re so invested in all of this knowing that you’re Palestinian.
You seem to be assuming Israelis as a whole support violent settlers like the ones in Yitzhar when we don’t.
I also asked because you wrote Israel and not just the West Bank. Considering I work with Palestinians that don’t experience any of that.
Who cares about accuracy or the truth these days amiright?
What’s a little bit of omission?
Killing / transferring, same same.
/s
In the last election, around 52% of the Israeli voters voted for parties that aren’t part of Bibi’s “bloc”.
Bibi’s party, Likud, got 23.4% of the votes. Two of the parties in his “bloc” are ultra-orthodox where their voters vote according to what their Rabbis say, and where one of the parties (UTJ) doesn’t recognize the state of Israel as it is now.
This is why he’s called “the king of Israeli politics”, because he manages to be PM despite all of this.
He said that Palestinians should be transferred to the Palestinian camps in Lebanon first. Before Gaza is flattened.
An article in Hebrew
Specifically this part:
“אחרי 7 באוקטובר אני חושב שמה שצריך להיות עכשיו ברצועה זה במקום לקרוא להם ללכת דרומה, לקרוא להם ללכת לחופים, ספינות חיל הים שמות אותם בחופי לבנון, יש שם מספיק מחנות פליטים, ולשים רצועת ביטחון מהים עד הגדר, ריקה לחלוטין, למען יזכרו כולם את כל מה שהיה שם. לשטח הכול בדיוק כמו שיש היום באושוויץ”, טען בפתח הראיון.
Still a terrible comparison, but very different.
If I were in Israel today, I would easily be injured or killed in the street by police or the IDF or angry settlers.
Why do you think that would happen?
Thank you.
Yes it’s very unfortunate.
Israel is a very important geopolitical target, so a lot of propganda actors are focusing on it and exploiting the situation for their own agenda. Like how Cambridge Analytica exploited divisive subjects to achieve their goals.
And a lot of people have an easier time to see things as either “good” or “evil”, so they fall for it.
It’s especially clear when you don’t see anyone talking about the heavy discrimination Palestinians have been facing in Lebanon for over 70 years.
I think you tried to downplay their numbers…
Those are 2 seperate things you are talking about.
Like the quote, I was talking about the kids who spoke badly towards the holocaust survivor. And they are a minority.
In the previous reply you wrote as if I said there are just a “couple few” survivors who aren’t getting help / enough help from the government. Which I didn’t.
Clearly you have a certain view of Israel.
But trying to generalize and paint Israelis as terrible people won’t help those holocaust survivors or help solve any issue related to the country.
There are so many Israelis working very hard to change and improve things that barely get any mention anywhere, despite their success and while not having the backing of millionaires and billionaires.
The more support these people get, the easier it will be to enact change.
And even if you don’t apply it to Israel, at least think about it in relation to other countries.
Like how the protest organizations in Israel collaborated with the ones in Poland since they faced similar challenges and situations.
You’re ignoring about half of what I wrote in my replies.
Nowhere did I say there are just a “couple few”.
The previous government in 2022, which wasn’t headed by Bibi, managed in less than a year to considerably raise the amount of money these survivors get and make it easier for survivors to get it.
And there were more plans, but then the government fell.
The heart of the issue like many issues in Israel, stem from corrupt populist politicians.
Similar to what other western countries have been / are dealing with.
I’m quite familiar with the subject, but I watched anyway.
What one of the survivors talked about is terrible, but those kids are a minority and if I knew where this was I could guess which group they’re from.
Rising living costs is part of the reason some of the survivors had to resort to these things, as the money wasn’t enough anymore.
Not the case of those in the video, who weren’t getting money at all and seems like it was for the reasons I’ve written about above.
I’m so familiar with this because I’m Israeli and my grandparents were holocaust survivors. Part of the reason I’ve volunteered in the past to help survivors like the ones in the video.
Mistreated by whom? People in Israel highly respect holocaust survivors.
It’s true that for some of them it’s not enough, especially with the rising costs of living in Israel, that’s definitely an issue which is raised almost every election.
But this is not an issue of “dropping rights”.
This is part of, some corrupt / some just capitalist, policies under Bibi’s governments.
Cutting down budgets for some government offices, while increasing them for some other made up offices for political reasons, cutting down on social services for everyone and directing funds to ultra-orthodox organizations as a part of political agreements, for example.
This corruption is part of the reason there were mass protests in Israel since the current government was elected.
And why more than half of Israel opposes Bibi and his “bloc”.
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I don’t understand this comment.
When people come into the country, no one knows if they are holocaust survivors or not.
They need to approach the government about them being holocaust survivors.
And for that, they need to know in the first place that they deserve aid and can get it. Which is very hard when you don’t know the language in the country you’ve come to.
Some of the aid organizations in the article help them exactly with that.
There are plenty of holocaust survivors in Israel from death camps and concentration camps, many who reached in ships as “Maapilim”.
They are highly respected, evident by all the events around them every year on remembrance day for the holocaust, school trips to “Yad Vashem”. Sometimes holocaust survivors are also invited to schools and workplaces to tell their stories, or people go to their houses to listen to them. There are also a lot of civil organisations around helping holocaust survivors.
The ones in poverty are mostly ones who came later on in the 1990’s from former Soviet Union, and usually didn’t or couldn’t contact authorities or know about what they deserve because of the language barrier - As many of them only speak Russian.
It’s incredibly unfortunate, and almost all Israeli Jews see supporting them and helping them as important.
From the PBS article you linked:
The Center of Organizations of Holocaust Survivors in Israel, an umbrella group representing 50 organizations that assist Holocaust survivors
Many of the most destitute immigrated to Israel in the 1990s from the former Soviet Union after its dissolution. They arrived with little means, had difficulty learning a new language late in life and many struggled to establish social networks.
She said there’s broad public support for survivors but the government needs to provide more assistance.
Holocaust remembrance remains a cornerstone of Israeli identity. A large percentage of the country is made up of survivors and generations of their descendants. The country marks its own Holocaust Remembrance Day each spring.
I’ve never heard of any Israeli Jew calling them “soap”. That’s insane and would cause outrage by anyone who hears that.
They didn’t face any discriminiation, since they were part of the people who founded Israel. Holocaust survivors helped build Israel and fought in its wars.
Mizrahi isn’t even a language and Ladino speakers are mostly not holocaust survivors.
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So The Palestinian Center for Policy Survey and Research (PCPSR), which is based in Ramallah, published this poll as an excuse for killing Gazan civilians?
Twisting my words and pretending I wrote things I didn’t isn’t doing you any favours.
Feels like I’m having a conversation with a Trump or Ben Gvir supporter.