Every settler’s second biggest fear is that those they oppress are just as bloodthirsty and violent as they are. Every settler’s biggest fear is that they aren’t.
Why?
The first is because they worry that if the shoe were on the other foot, they would be the ones marginalized and destroyed, the second dismantles their entire worldview, their entire idea that everything is “us vs them” that the enemy will destroy us unless we destroy them first, they justify the existence of their colonial states by insisting that if they didn’t conquer, they would be the ones conquered. But if people aren’t all violent conquerors, if people can be peaceful and work together, it means that the entire western imperialist worldview is fundamentally wrong.
But do they really care?
Care about what?
Suspicion haunts the guilty mind.
If a Native American asked me to leave, they would be right to do so, which is insane because I usually have “white” people telling me to go back to where I came from. Never had a indigenous person say that to me.
I have the opposite experience; native Americans think I’m one of them and it’s not far of since I am 2/3rds native by DNA.
However that doesn’t qualify me as native American in the United States or Canada so jokes on them. Lol
I bet aboriginal Australians, the peoples of most isolated island nations, and maybe a fair number of the farther flung American native peoples (Innuit, far South Americans…) have a fairly strong claim to living on “found” land, not stolen land.
Depending on how we define “stolen” one could argue that there are pockets of land all over Earth that’s inhabited by people with ancestral claims going back to time immemorial that don’t involve violent taking.
I would add the Ainu of Hokkaido and Sakhalin, the Malagasy (madagascar), Maori (New Zealand), most other Polynesian countries, and iceland to the list.
Average settler not realizing non-settlers exist.
I’m sorry that you’re 20 years old and literally have never heard about the Israel Palestine conflict until a month ago but you should probably give some thought to your ethical position.
Pure projection. Even ignoring settler colonialism and the fact that there are living people who had their homes stolen from them and still have the keys, where the hell is the moral high ground for “Israel?” They don’t give a fuck about avoiding civilians and have killed thousands of children, bombed hospitals and churches, and locked millions inside an open air prison. This graph should say all that needs to be said:
Accusations of youth are so often just insecure projections. I’d wager this person is 21 or 22 lol.
I’m 24. Been mad about this for 10 fucking years and felt like no one was listening. People are waking up.
True, were I the one in this conversation I’d say “no, I am five years younger and still managed to have more knowledge and morality than you.”
That graph reminds me that CBC News was publishing a similar graph showing Palestinian and Israeli deaths, except they stopped publishing the Israeli graph when they had to repeatedly increase the scale and the Israeli bar graph grew smaller and smaller in comparison
The kind of nerd who would name drop every single Roman Empire or Viking invasion to tell you that Europe land has been repeatedly stolen lol
“Excuse me, but if you refer to my Crusader Kings campaign here, you can CLEARLY see the history of the ownership of territories changed hands multiple times over the years.”
“…I also might have engaged in incest 73 times, so I think that is also morally acceptable.”
“Because varying degrees of bad thing can be found in a lot of places, every version of bad thing is equally bad therefore do nothing lol status quo good lol get schwifty”
Merry bread day!
There’s got to be some chart showing where bread stands in comparison to cake. Good thing I like bread anyway. 🍞
Also Palestine was colonized very recently when compared to Americas
Palestinians were living on land that was not stolen 🤔
Does that guy think the world is just the US and Israel?
Don’t forget Austrialia lmao
Did Palestinians identity with the aboriginal people in Palestine before their conversion to Arabian culture?
I think yes so. What do you suppose, Arab people are not a monolith…
Merry bread day to you, in addition. How do you feel being twins with UlyssesT?
I don’t know what words I can use to express my thanks… thank you very much…
your user is beautiful
Hmm, why’d ye say that?
I’d carve it into my skin
what kind of argument is that? Cant these people think?
“Uhm akshually we weren’t the first ones to steal land and do genocide so us stealing land and committing genocide is perfectly justifiable”
